Hither Green Lane largely follows a ridge that is the watershed between the Ravensbourne and the Quaggy, it once offered fine views to the east towards Shooters Hill and to the west along the Ravensbourne and Pool valleys and Forest Hill, once part of the Great North Wood. These vistas were no doubt the reason behind the location of several large houses, that were homes to the wealthy – including Campshill House, Laurel Cottage, Oak Cottage, Wilderness House, Hither Green Lodge, and Mount Pleasant. Perched around the highest point on the ridge was Mountsfield – this post tells the story of the house, its occupants and the Park that came after.
The land for Mountsfield seems to have been bought around 1845 by Henry Stainton of Springfield House (1). Springfield was at what is now the junction of Rushey Green and Hawstead Road, next to the almshouses, it was named after a stream that ran alongside the main road (2).Henry Stainton was a wealthy iron merchant and the land and house that was built on it seem to have been bought for his son, Henry Tibbats Stainton as a wedding present when he married Jane Isabel Dunn (also from an iron and steel family) at Sheffield Cathedral in 1846. Henry Tibbats Stainton was born in August 1822 and baptised in the City of London church St Benet, Paul’s Wharf. But the family seem to have moved to Lewisham soon after. He was educated at home before going to King’s College, London after which he worked for his father as an iron merchant.
The house seems to have been finished in 1847 (3), with the wide main drive sweeping slightly round from the current entrance in George Lane (above). The footprint and size suggest something rather grand.
There seems to be just one surviving photograph of the House – part of a fabulous ‘lantern’ slide of Hither Green, presumably taken from a balloon in the late 1880s, which is part of the collection of Historic England. Mountsfield is towards the right of the photograph – next to the clear bend in George Lane. Wilderness House, Hither Green Lodge and Laurel Cottage are also visible either side of the junction of George Lane and Hither Green Lane.
The house was badly built, and had to be demolished in 1905 (4) – we’ll return to that later. A stable block remained until 1969, when it was largely destroyed by fire and that, along with some other outbuildings, were demolished in 1981 (5).
The outbuildings (partly shown above), latterly used as a cafe, were home to Henry Tibbats Stainton’s museum relating to his interest in entomology. Henry Tibbats Stainton had developed an interest in moths and butterflies around 1840 and by the time he moved to Mountsfield was a recognised authority on them.
The preface to ‘Stainton’s Handbook of Butterflies and Moths’ was penned at Mountsfield in February 1857. However, his references to Lewisham, Hither Green and Catford are disappointingly few and far between in the first volume.
He spotted Cosmidæ Euperia Fulvago, a moth that is ‘pale ocherous, faintly tinged with grey with darker centre’ spotted in Lewisham in 1846 (6). I have a mental ‘picture’ of Stainton wandering through the fields of North Park Farm or a little further afield to the meadows of Burnt Ash Farm. I hope that when he noted that ‘In lanes we find in addition to these, several species of Hipparchia, and perhaps the Fritlillaries, Hair Streaks and Skippers,’ (7) that this included the still rural Hither Green Lane and the farm track that became Verdant Lane. If there were sightings here they would have been included in ‘common everywhere’ category, frequently used by Stainton.
There seem to have been relatively local wanderings with mentions of Trochillium Incheumoniforme – a tiny moth was once observed at Charlton sand-pit, probably Gilbert’s Pit (8). He spotted several rare species in West Wickham Woods including Lophopteryx Carmelita (picutred), a reddish brown moth (9) and another moth Limacodes Testudo (10).
Stainton died from stomach cancer in December 1892 at Mountsfield, and was buried in the family vault at St Mary’s, Lewisham. An obituary described him as ‘a genial and generous friend and a painstaking industrious worker….(who took a) truly biological approach to taxonomy’.
By the time Henry Tibbats Stainton died, the city was encroaching on Mountsfield; the streets below to the west built on the former Mount Pleasant had been laid out and much of the housing built.
It would appear that Jane Stainton at least contemplated selling up soon after her husband’s death. She appointed a surveyor to act for her, as was noted in the enquiry in relation to building a Fever Hospital next door on the land belonging to Wilderness House and Hither Green Lodge. The surveyor suggested that the building of the Fever Hospital would lead to land of the Mountsfield estate, then valued at £500 – £600 an acre, being reduced to as little as £150 an acre (11).
In reality, Jane Stainton didn’t sell up and remained at Mountsfield until her death in 1898. There appear to have been some legal complexities in relation to what happened following Jane Stainton’s death without a will, which appear to have related to interests in both Scotland and England. The estate was put up for auction in 1900 as a result of a legal case McLaren v Stainton, although presumably wasn’t sold (12).
The following year, the London County Council (LCC) Schools Board purchased 14 acres for a school on Brownhill Road. It was noted at the same time that the LCC was looking to buy the rest of the estate for a park given the lack of one in the area (13).
The purchase of six acres for the park wasn’t completed by the LCC until 1904 though, with half funding coming the old Borough of Lewisham (14). The Park was opened in August 1905, and was soon extended as the LCC decided that they only needed half of the land that they had set aside for the school and the remaining 7 acres was returned to parkland – presumably land close to Brownhill Road (15). This would have addressed concerns expressed by the Hither Green and Catford Ratepyers Association about the lack of an entrance from Brownhill Road in the original plans (16).
As was the pattern with Lee Manor House and Manor House Gardens, the intention was to create a library as well as a Park. Sadly, the quality of the building of Mountsfield was so poor that when the LCC surveyors inspected the house a decision was made to demolish it (17).
The original Park, did not include the south western quadrant which was used initially by Lewisham Montrose and then by Catford Southend, affectionately known as ‘The Kittens’ from 1909 who played to a good non-league standard. In the early 1920s there were plans to merge The Kittens with Charlton Athletic who played part of the 1922/23 season at The Mount, which probably had a 50,000 capacity. The merger didn’t happen, Charlton returned to The Valley, and Catford Southend went into a rapid downward spiral – with their records for the 1926/27 season being expunged and seemingly ending in liquidation. The embankment for the terracing in the south west corner of the ground still remains (see below). Some parts of the physical structure of the ground seem to have remained until the 1950s, but the pitch was subsumed back into the Park.
At around the same time some former allotment land was purchased from Trinity College in Greenwich bringing the total size of the park to around 28 acres (18). It seems that around the time that the Park was created seven houses were built along the George Lane side of the Park to the corner of Stainton Road. These were short lived as they were destroyed, beyond the level of repair in the Blitz (19), and by 1949 the land had been subsumed back into the Park. During the War, much of the park was converted into allotments to help feed locals.
After the closure of the school on Brownhill Road, latterly Catford Boys, in the early 1990s, the playing fields were reunited with the rest of the Park.
The Park has been public open space for the citizens of Catford, Hither Green and elsewhere for over a century, although during World War Two much of the Park was turned over the allotments. It has an active Friends Group, a lovely community garden, a cafe, a parkrun and it is home to Lewisham Peoples Day – 2022 saw the 35th edition. While the Victorian views towards Shooters Hill have been lost, the urban views up and down the Ravensbourne Valley (pictured at sunset in early 2022) and towards Forest Hill while now urban, remain almost as impressive as when Henry Tibbats Stainton moved in during the 1840s.
- Godfrey Smith (1997) Hither Green – The Forgotten Hamlet p34
- Leland Duncan (1908) History of the Borough of Lewisham p157
- Smith op cit p 34
- ibid p34
- ibid p34
- Henry Tibbats Stainton (1857) Stainton’s Handbook of Butterflies and Moths’ p257
- ibid p11
- ibid p104
- ibid p124
- ibid p124
- Kentish Mercury, 2 June 1893
- Kentish Mercury, 6 July 1900
- Kentish Mercury, 29 November 1901
- Kentish Mercury, 4 March 1904
- Smith, op cit, p59
- Kentish Mercury, 1 July 1904
- Smith, op cit, p34
- ibid p 59
- Laurence Ward (2015) The London County Council Bomb Damage Maps p129
Picture & Other Credits
- The drawing of Lophopteryx Carmelita is a part of a picture via Wikipedia and is on a Creative Commons
- The Ordnance Survey map from 1867 is via the National Library of Scotland on a non-commercial licence
- The black and white photograph of the gardens and outhouses and that of Catford Southend are from the collection of Lewisham Archives, it remains their copyright and is used with their permission.
- The aerial photogrpah, as noted in the text, is part of the collkection of Historic England and is used here for ‘non-commercial purposes’ the full image can be found here
- Census, marriage and related information comes via Find My Past (subscription required)
Loved reading the history of one of our local parks and it’s great to know it’s in good hands. Will make sure to visit next time I’m back in London.
It is a lovely park, despite the austerity cuts that have badly impacted on other parks, Mountsfield (and other Lewisham parks) generally always looks great – although on hot days like today people have picnics and parties and don’t take their rubbish home.
A lovely read, Thank you for this insightful piece.
Thank you, kind of you to say. It is one of my favourite Lewisham parks – the post was something of a labour of love – I wanted to do the park justice.
Did this park originally have a pond/lake in it
It did, they were next to the path going down to the entrance at Brownhill Road; somewhere, I have got an image of a postcard with them on but couldn’t find it for the post. May cover them in a post on the tributaries of the Ravensbourne.
We also have an image of the postcard showing the pond and others which we can share on this blog or on ours.
Assume that’s the one near the Brownhill Road? I’ve got a copy of the postcard with that one – planning to do at some point a series of posts on the Ravensbourne and it’s Tributaries which was going to use it for – seems to have been a spring feeding it and it then probably flowed past a farm on Sangley Road. Should have added it when I did an update on the post when I found the aerial photo.
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Another very interesting post. I spent my childhood in the 70s alternating between Mountsfield Park and Manor Park Gardens. Mountsfield had the better swing park with rocking horse, rocking boat, Witches hat, big slide and the main attraction – the massive Cheese Cutter ride which the kids used to hang onto for dear life, for fear of falling on the hard asphalt ground! If you got on and stayed on you were one of the cool kids. Happy days!
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